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26-Nov-1998
To brighten your day, Gary Kazin presents this little comic that shows that grade crossing accidents have been around for a LONG time!
Once again, we see that when it rains, it pours! Sam Weibel caught Conrail caboose 21114, ex-EL/Erie C347, in somewhat rough shape, trailing the Marion local leaving Marion, OH (very appropriate!) on September 18, 1998. Jeff Lubchansky found Conrail 21132 (ex-EL/Erie C307) and 21147 (ex-EL/Erie C327) in Altoona, PA on October 2, 1998.
Steve Kay shares with us some classic postcard views from the early 20th century: Additionally, Steve also shares some latter day views as well:
  • Today's electrified Lackawanna, with modern NJT push-pull electric equipment, passes through fall colors along Tabor Pond in Mt. Tabor, NJ.
  • Steve visited the shortline Bath & Hammondsport (now part of the Livonia, Avon and Lakeville) in 1997, and photographed these views of classic American shortline railroading in action. B&H Alco S1 #4 is pictured near Bath, NY, along the ex-Erie main, undergoing repairs. Here's a rear view of the unit, as well as a engineer's side and fireman's side. Finally, here's a view of one of Number 4's trucks.
John Durant, a former EL (and current CR) scale inspector, sends along a wealth of great photos:
  • Delaware-Lackawanna C425 2452, ex-EL 2452, is seen at the new Harvest States mill in Pocono Summit, PA, along the DL&W Main Line. John shot this while testing the new RR scale at the mill. The oil is from a crankcase explosion that happened a day earlier. The unit is repaired and back in service once again.
  • Erie scale test cars! Erie 03441 is pictured as Passaic Jct., NJ on November 19, 1966. This car was retired in 1969 and scrapped in 1970 or 1971. Erie 03443, which later became EL 03443, is pictured at Paterson, NJ (behind the Curtiss Wright plant) in November 1941.
  • Conrail RS3m 9998, very obviously ex-EL 1060, is pictured at Croxton, NJ on June 28, 1977. The raised long hood (as well as the two short stacks and pair of radiator fans on the top of the hood) are indicative of the locomotive's repowering with an EMD prime mover, the only EL RS3 so modified before Conrail.
  • Conrail GP7 5974, a former Erie/EL unit, also reposes at Croxton, NJ.
  • EL SDP45 3638 pauses at the Railroad YMCA in Hornell, NY for a crew change on September 15, 1975. John believes this is train NE-87.
  • EL C424 2401 is pictured against a typical steel industry background during September 1976, five months into Conrail, at Brier Hill, OH.
  • A little worse for wear, EL RS3 1052 sits at Brier Hill, OH on November 8, 1975. John was out there rebuilding the Brier Hill yard scale at the time.
  • EL SDP45 3656 sits with a big GE U-boat at Croxton, NJ during September 1973.
  • And to close off with a treat, here is EL caboose 04967, a former Erie wooden hack, in Meadville, PA on May 11, 1976. John was out there for the first Conrail scale inspectors' meeting. It's hard to believe that back then, there were 19 inspectors (15 PC, 3 EL, 1 RDG). Today there are 7 (5 PC, 2 EL)...
Corey Copeland sends this view of the giant Erie coaling tower at Meadville, PA.
Seth Taylor found this postcard view of the Tobyhanna, PA DL&W station, taken circa 1907.
Mike Del Vecchio sent this scan of a Lackawanna standard color light signals reference sheet. The letter attached to the sheet is dated April 28, 1932, and indicates the color light system has been in use on the Lackawanna for eleven years (since 1921!).
Bob Albert sent along some information on D&MM 4-6-0 number 304:
  • Built as NKP #44 (2nd) by Brooks (s/n 38831) in December 1905
  • Renumbered NKP #304 in 1910.
  • Sold to AC&Y as #304 on May 9, 1920.
  • Sold to D&MM as #304 on July 6, 1929.
  • Sold to Myers Steel & Supply, but held at Danville, NY.
  • Sold to F. Nelson Blount in 1964, and sent to Steamtown.
  • Somewhere along the line, the engine was renumbered back to #44.
Bob is also treasurer of the NKP H&TS, and also belongs to the Hoosier Valley RR Museum in North Judson, IN. The Museum owns ex-Erie S1 #310, which they want to repaint into Erie colors, but they're looking for a painting/lettering diagram for the units. Can anyone provide Bob with this information? Also at the Museum is ex-Erie/EL C345, which has been restored as EL C345.
Scott Lupia has these two articles in his collection on the tragic accident at East Dover in the late 1960's. More articles are forthcoming from Scott's collection, but for now here are the first article and the second article.
Gary Kazin again dived into his collection of postcards, and came up with these goodies:
  • The "convent" in Convent Station, NJ, here is the College of St. Elizabeth, directly across from the station itself.
  • A view of South Orange, NJ in 1907. The DL&W runs from left to right in front of the trolley cars. The trolleys cannot cross the DL&W, so they meet on opposite sides of the main!
  • Looking out at Denville from Mt. Tabor, NJ circa 1910.
  • The opening day of the Boonton, NJ Lackawanna station. Nice landscaping, and a train to boot!
  • A view of the Rockaway Trolley Cut, just adjacent to the DL&W Rockaway Branch.
Bruce (didn't state last name) took these shots in Port Jervis, NY in the early 1970's. The first view features EL U25B 2525 leading an eastbound train past the Port Jervis yard. The second view has EL SDP45 3651 leading another train eastbound at the same location.
Doug Major dug through his collection and came up with these recently-acquired images. These, to the best of his knowledge, have not been posted before to the Internet, and he offers them here for the enjoyment of list members.
  • Lackawanna 952 sits at Hoboken, NJ (date unknown)
  • Lackawanna 952 once again, sitting at Kingsland Shops in 1939, after its refurbishing.
  • "Bess", the ACF shop goat is going to scrap in DL&W 68907, a class GB gondola (also built in Berwick by ACF in 1951). Photo by the ACF Labs, 1953, in Berwick, PA.
Doug Barberio scanned in these images from an Erie Railroad system map. The first view shows all Erie lines between Jersey City, NJ and Binghamton, NY. The second view shows the detail of the concentrated track in the New York/New Jersey industrial area.
Dick Tubbs found these photos in his collection of Erie E8's, as part of the recent thread on the original paint schemes of these units.
Bob Bahrs has done a wonderful job of recreating this DL&W MOW truck. Though not an original DL&W truck, it is the same style, and restored exactly like the original. To appease those Erie fans out there, here's a view of the truck in front of Erie E8 "835", as restored by the United Railroad Historical Society of New Jersey. Both photos taken on September 13, 1998.
From the collection of yours truly, some interesting imagery...
  • For all you marine fans, here's a shot taken about a month ago at Hoboken, NJ. EL MOW barge #0 (!!!) is still in use by the Union Dry Dock and Repair Company, 22 years after Conrail!
  • Some shots from the Lackawanna Cut-Off, taken last weekend (November 22, 1998). The Paulinskill Viaduct from the ground - the Susquehanna went under the bridge near the pier in the center of the photo. Up top, the bridge needs some weeding!. The bridge's building date is cast into the end of the bridge - 80 year old technology is still holding up well! And the view from the top is still as magnificent as it ever was. The break in the mountains in the distance is the Delaware Water Gap.
  • What you've all been waiting for: HOOKERMAN GATHERING PHOTOS! Our first "Hookerman gang" - from left to right: Scott Lupia, Joe Scheneck and his wife. And here's the second "Hookerman Gang," second section (I forgot to grab a photo of the first section, sorry!) - from left to right: Mike "DC3," Gary Kazin, non-list member, Rob Schoenberg (standing on bench), Mike Kaponski, Pat Lederer, Steve Pelletiere, and a friend of Steve's. Hidden behind Pat (and he managed to hide in BOTH photos I took!) is John "J.P." Mikesh. What did we see? Well, at least on the first trip, we saw some unexplainable lights. Here is a time-exposure I took on the Friday the 13th gathering. We're looking north on the High Bridge Branch. What makes those two small lights even more unusual is that they streaked in real life, but didn't streak on the film. (!?!?)
Chuck Yungkurth drew up these excellent maps for the ELHS 1998 convention in Binghamton, and has given permission to put them up for list members to enjoy. The first map shows Binghamton prior to the 1958 DL&W-Erie joint operation between Binghamton and Corning. The second map shows Binghamton today, for comparison.

6-Oct-1998
Matt Forsyth sends these two downright amazing shots! The first one is a crisp and clean view of the just-restored (and numbered "4" - anyone know the occasion?) DL&W camelback 952 in a Lackawanna shop. Is this Scranton, PA, or Kingsland, NJ? This view demonstrates just how badly the 952 has degraded while at the Museum of Transportation in St. Louis. The other view is an under-construction shot of the Lackawanna viaduct at Kingsley, PA. Sometimes called the "little Tunkhannock," this bridge is the "little brother" the largest concrete reinforced bridge in the world. Note the line at the right that ducks under the bridge.
Kevin DeGroff shows you can still find signs of the EL if you look!
  • Conrail E8 4022, better known to most of us as Erie/EL 833, is seen just south of the PRR Rockville Bridge in Marysville, PA on September 13, 1998. This close-up view shows the sparkling clean roof and paint. This unit mercifully lacks the large mufflers that the other CR E8's feature on their roofs. Kevin also caught the train at Duncannon, PA. Still a classy unit!
  • At the other end of the country, Kevin found EL SDP45 3655, now in the guise of Helm (HLCX) 6515, pictured just outside of South Seattle, WA. The unit has been rebuilt as an SD40-3, but still retains its original exterior appearance. This view of the end shows the characteristic "extended tail", which shows evidence of hand washing! (an EL fan employee, perhaps?). The front view also shows that other than the paint job, not much changed.
Jay Jordan rode the URHS Erie E8 excursion, and he shares these views of the trips. The trip started off at Hoboken Terminal, where "Erie 835" sits amongst the NJ Transit multiple-unit cars. The 835 is then pictured next underneath the ex-DL&W station at Kingsland, NJ. Jay also took this striking view of the E-units at the International Trade Center in Mt. Olive, NJ.
Yours truly took a short trip to Altoona, PA - deep in the heart of PRR country - and was pleasantly surprised to find quite a bit of neat EL stuff:
  • Conrail E8 4022 (nee-Erie/EL 833) was on display to the public at their Juniata shop. Here are views of the engineer's side and the fireman's side.
  • Conrail gondola 510614, ex-EL 12637, sits on a scrap line (gasp!) in East Altoona. This car is a perfect example of a 52'6" Greenville-style gondola, a common member of the EL freight car fleet.
  • Conrail gondola 565568, ex-EL 44428, sits on the same sad scrap line...
  • Conrail flat 750067, a distinctive ex-EL 8200-series flat car, sits in the East Altoona staging yard amid a sea of hoppers. There remains a chance that this car will be rebuilt.
  • A weather-beaten EL PS-1 boxcar, number 63475 (yes, the number is there, but barely readable!), sits in the East Altoona scrap yard. Though the lettering has pretty much faded away, the roadname and logo can still be seen in the late day sun.
  • At first, I ignored this car, but a second look made me realize this little piece is a treasure! Conrail side-dump car 53276 is former DL&W 97019 (want proof? Look at the heritage number and the DL&W trucks!) This 1956-built car is also in the dreaded scrap line. Anyone want to make an offer?
  • EL gondola 43645 looks the worse for wear, but it's still alive and kicking. Sitting outside the Hollidaysburg Car Shops, this car is a likely candidate for rebuilding.
  • An authentic EL 40' boxcar, number 71630 rests in the East Altoona scrap yard. But wait! this car has survived at this location for well over five years now, and almost appears to be destined to stay. Perhaps the scrappers are using it? The car still has its original Erie trucks, and the Erie number, 9037?, is beginning to reappear on the B-end of the car. The EL diamond almost appears to be "weeping" from years of neglect. For all you detail hounds, here's a view of the B-end of the car.
  • An EL 33000-series hopper also rests in the scrap yard, but like the 40' boxcar above, this one still hasn't used up its nine lives. It, too, has sat in this yard for over 5 years and shows no sign of becoming scrap fodder.
  • Probably the most "rare" EL item I saw this weekend was EL business car #2. Owned by a private individual in the Philadelphia, PA area, this car rarely gets out on the road. It appeared on a special private car excursion this day. Here's an elevated rear 3/4 view of the car, taken from the 17th Street Bridge in downtown Altoona. And the other end: The observation end of the car at ground level.
  • Somewhat EL-related is this Norfolk Southern billboard, announcing the merger to the people of Altoona.

24-Sep-1998
ERIE 436 LIVES! Erie SW9 436 has been repainted into its original paint by the New York & Greenwood Lake Railway. The unit is currently leased from the United Railroad Historical Society. As promised, here are shots taken September 24, 1998 by yours truly:
  • Photo 1: 436 runs down the street trackage on Monroe Avenue in Garfield, NJ. Note the cars hanging on the train's rear!
  • Photo 2: A dramatic lower angle of the 436 and Erie caboose C340 at Passaic, NJ.
  • Photo 3: 436 and C340 cross the placid Passaic River on the "Half Moon Trestle."
  • Photo 4: How's this for classy ? NY&GL had Adlake make up custom lanterns for them!
  • Photo 5: NYGL RS3 953 and Erie 436 sit next to the Atlantic Coast Fibers warehouse in Passaic, NJ.
  • Photo 6: Classic meets classic! Railfan Tom Hodupski poses his 1969 Dodge Charger with the 436.
  • Photo 7: If you didn't know any better, you'd think this shot was taken in the 1950's! 436 poses in front of a classic brick warehouse in Passaic.
  • Photo 8: 436 juxtaposes with a historic painted-on billboard on an adjacent building.
  • Photo 9: Telephoto view of the 436 backing into Island Yard, which is now filled with cars regularly!
  • Photo 10: The train poses in perfect light at Dundee Junction, the connection with the Bergen County Main, at Garfield, NJ.
  • Photo 11: I tried replicating a John Sees photo in a past Diamond. The train arrives at Dundee Junction in this view.
  • Photo 12: High green! (traffic light, that is) -- The train backs caboose-first down Monroe Street.
  • Photo 13: A broadside of NYGL RS3 935. Boy, that paint sure looks familiar!
  • Photo 14: A broadside of 436 crossing Main Street in Passaic.
21-Sep-1998
Todd Hollritt forwards along these photos from his railfan friend Dave Sabagh. The first view is Train HB-1 at Great Notch, NJ, being led by SDP45s 3665 and 3651 during February 1975. The second view is a great late-day sunlit shot of the Great Notch station, complete with an EL MOW truck.
Gary Kazin shares this view of a trolley car going up the elevated ramp to Jersey City from Hoboken Terminal in the early 1900's.
Doug Barberio sends along some wonderful scans of Erie and Lackawanna paperwork. The first image is a diagram book page from an Alco S1/S2/RS1 manual. The next image is a large (236K) but colorful and detailed Erie system map (courtesy Dave McWherter), covering the whole railroad from New York to Chicago. When folded up, the map reveals a flashy front and an informative back. Finally, a beautiful black and white shot of a DL&W Trainmaster from the Trainmaster manual.
Tim Byrne recently shot these views of the Lackawanna Warehouse in Jersey City. This large structure was built by the DL&W, and obviously once had rail service. The first view looks at the warehouse from the south near the Holland Tunnel. The second view shows the north end of the building, peeking out over the dwellings of Jersey city. Note the large "LACKAWANNA" lettering at the top! The final view shows the south end of the building, with a schizophrenic sign at top!
Jeff Lubchansky found this former Erie Dunmore-built steel caboose at Bridgeton, NJ on the Winchester and Western Railroad. Does anyone know this caboose's Erie number?
David Monte Verde sent along this information on the Dansville & Mount Morris #304 photo in the Archives section of this site: The 304 was built bt the Nickel Plate in 1905, later sold to the Akron, Canton ≈ Youngstown, and was sold to the D&MM on July 1, 1929, where it stayed with DL&W 565 as the primary power until being replaced by 44-tonner #1, the first, last, and only new unit ever owned by the D&MM. 304 was sold to Steamtown USA in Vermont on March 17, 1964.
Steve Pelletiere shots these images of EL's big brutish U34CH diesels in service on NJ Transit. The first shot shows a tattered NJT 4180 at Summit, NJ, on one of its last runs on July 7, 1994, bound for Dover. The second shot shows NJT 4155 (with a clean and freshly-silvered nose) pushing a train out of Denville, NJ on June 29, 1988.
Gene Deimling is an accomplished Proto:48 modeler (P:48 is a highly-detailed and prototypically accurate form of O scale modeling). Here are some examples of his work:

Erie 20000 is a representative of the 1934 build of the Erie`s first covered hopper. Greenville delivered 20000 in 1934. The capacity of the hopper is 50 tons, which is small by modern standards. The model was built entirely from styrene in late 1973. The trucks are lost wax castings done to P:48 exact scale with steel wheels. The couplers are lost wax bottom operated Type-E produced by the late Bill Clouser, decals are by Champ.

DL&W 81590 is a USRA twin hopper, modernized with Gould trucks and an AB Brake System. The model is an undecorated Intermountain O scale kit painted and lettered with C-D-S dry transfers.

DL&W 51274 is a 1937 AAR Boxcar built from an O scale Intermountain kit, lettered with C-D-S dry transfers. The car has scratchbuilt ladders (brass) and new grab irons. The trucks are from Red Caboose and converted to run Grabowski P:48 steel wheels.

Modelers: Feel free to forward photos of your own modeling craftsmanship for this page!
Michael Steinberg managed to sneak a photo of Lackawanna camelback 4-4-0 #952 at the Museum of Transportation at St. Louis, MO. Note the new black paint signifying the "upkeep" of the engine... :)
Walt Fles sent this bit of "west end flavor. This photo, shot by Jeff Glinka on the Saturday of Memorial Day Weekend in 1974, shows an eastbound train eith E8's, north of the diamonds at Griffith, Indiana.
Scott Lupia forwards along this most unique photo of an Erie Lackawanna F-unit! Here is EL 6114, in what may be a one-of-a-kind variation (does anyone know of any others?) The unit is very obviously a former Lackawanna freight scheme unit, but its "LACKAWANNA" lettering has been replaced with 7 inch high EL Roman lettering, and a standard diamond has been applied to the nose (not like the rectangular logos that were usually applied to transition scheme E8's). A most interesting (and attractive) scheme!
Bill Kisselstein was lucky enough to find this former Erie boxcar (number 22885) near Caledonia, NY. This 1923 AAR boxcar (based on the PRR X29 design) has been converted into a garage, but still has its couplers! The opposite end is still intact, too! Under the fading red paint, an Erie logo is still visible. Bill has highlighted the edges of the logo in black for reference.
Paul Tupaczewski (yeah, me) has had some good luck finding all sorts of EL-related scenes to photograph these past few weeks. A surprise at Conrail's Enola (PA) yard on September 6, 1998 was SD45-2 #6664 (former EL 3679), sunning itself between runs. And sitting at Whippany, NJ on September 18, 1998, was restored Morristown & Erie #1, the former DL&W bobber #4. The restoration job was done by the Whippany Railway Museum. And finally, on September 28, 1998 the United Railway Historical Society ran its pair of "Erie" E8's numbered 834 and 835 (these are former NYC and PRR units painted to represent Erie units). Here they are in all their glory: The units roll into Boonton, NJ with the original DL&W station in the background (sacrilege! :), former Long Island "ping-pong" coaches at the right, and the Main Street bridge overhead. Pulling back somewhat, the view shows more of what's "new" today - the new Boonton station, and the new Morris Avenue bridge at the left. The E-units are on top of what once was the Morris Canal. Note the orange highway flashers on the pilot! As we swing around, the units roll across the Rockaway River bridge as they approach their next photo stop. The units are then pictured at the Fanny Road photo stop. Fanny Road is the bridge in the far background, and those who have seen the photos from the Boonton "Discovery Days" will no doubt recognize that signal bridge over the train! After starting up again, the pair of E-units accelerate hard as they pass the Dixon Bros. facility at Mountain Lakes, and roll onto the four-track wide Route 46 overpass.

8-Aug-1998
Frank Czajkowski visited Port Morris yard recently to see the work going on by NJ Transit to double-end their commuter storage yard there. The yard is built atop the old Lackawanna freight yard there. The first view was taken from the east end of the current storage yard. Work is already beginning beyond the orange "snow fence". UN Tower can be seen in the distant background. At this point, the Cut-Off begins, and its roadbed travels from right to left along the line of trees in the background. The second view shows a close-up of UN Tower, with the "Old Road" to Netcong and Washington, now part of NJT's "Boonton Line" service, curving off to the right. The yard grading work is continuing in the foreground, and sharp eyes will be able to spot part of the Cut-Off roadbed between UN Tower and the track at right. All views were taken at 5:00 PM on Friday, July 31, 1998.
Bob Dobrowolski took these shots of motive power at (what I believe is) Croxton engine facility in Secaucus, NJ.
  • U25B 2512 sits next to a GP35 near the sanding facility in 1975.
  • SDP45 3667 is parked in the company of a GP35 and an EMD switcher at the sanding facility. This ain't your ordinary SDP45, folks! The 3667 had experimental "tiger stripes" applied to its snow plow, but if you take a close look at its long hood, you'll see it's also wearing an SD45-2 hood! This was the result of a wreck the unit was involved in, and when rebuilt, the then-current 45-2 hood was used.
Lots of new stuff in the videos section!

3-Aug-1998
Harry Scholz was wise enough to shoot the EL after "Conrailization" - these views allow us to see essentially "complete" EL units with minor lettering revisions. All the following slides were shot in the Elmira, NY area.
  • C425 2475 in the middle of an early Conrail consist, encrusted with snow and ice during the Winter of 1976-77.
  • GP7 5924, ex-Erie 1404, the much talked-about "Phase II" Geep, takes a rest.
  • RS3m 9998 was the only EMD-reengined RS3 ever completed by the EL. Here it's switching the Elmira yard in the Spring of 1978.
  • A whole horde of switchers! SW8 8697, NW2 8697, NW2 9210, NW2 9222, NW2 9224, and NW2 9239. Note in particular the 9210 - this is the unit that received black paint AFTER EL! Perhaps some old Erie shop hands...?
Tim Byrne shot these views of a former EL unit back in EL territory: Delaware-Lackawanna 2461, former EL C425 2461, sits at Steamtown in Scranton, PA in mid-1998. This view shows the striping and lettering treatment on the back of the unit; note the additional handrail at the drop step, added by its most recent owner, the British Columbia Railway.
Mike Del Vecchio sends this classic postcard of a night view of the Lackawanna station in Scranton, PA.
Doug Barberio provides these classic Lackawanna images, courtesy of the Middletown & New Jersey Railroad Historical Society collection. The first view is of the front of a Lackawanna Train Master from a Fairbanks-Morse manual. The second view is a cut-away view of a Train Master, also from F-M documentation.
Bill Kisselstein shot this view of the Clinton Street pedestrian underpass in 1992 at Binghamton, NY. This concrete relic is still there today!

27-Jul-1998
More names are up in the Members section. Have you submitted your name yet?
Erie/EL E-units live! I caught the Conrail Office Car Special at Waldwick, NJ this (7/27/98) morning. The train was impressive, featuring all three Conrail E8's, including #4022 (ex-Erie/EL 833) as the center unit. The train, seen at Waldwick, sure evokes memories of twenty-five years ago, when E8's passed this location daily. The sad remains of WC Tower are at right, and this OCS is moving at a good clip here. Turning around, we see the power going away. Of note is CR 4022! Also note the color of the units, very obviously GREEN in this well-lit shot. Notice that the two ex-PRR units (4020/4021) have been rebuilt - shorter grabs at the back of the units, as well as hinged rear panels, most likely for the HEP generator. And of course, the 4022 has different grilles. Making this train even more perfect for EL fans is the car trailing the power - Conrail #11, which in its "previous life" was Erie/EL Spirit of Youngstown, and still rolling strong today! The 9-car train rolling west past the old yard is probably the closest thing we'll find to EL passenger service today! This is most likely the last chance the complete Conrail train will roll over this part of the former Erie before the merger is consummated.

21-Jul-1998
LOTS of new videos are now up in the Videos section. Classic Lackawanna, as well as newer EL footage... check it out!
Gary Kazin once again provides us with another historic postcard view. This view of Dover looks south from the area where the freight house is, just east of the station. This image was taken around 1915.
Thanks for Henry Priebe for pointing this out: For some odd reason, the sound file below will only work if you download it with Microsoft Internet Explorer. For some strange reason, Netscape doesn't handle MP3 sound files correctly. I'm sorry for any inconvenience this might cause!

20-Jul-1998
SOUND! Ed Montgomery had the terrific forethought to record the old reliable Lackawanna MU's before they were retired. Here is a sample (3530K) of an MU approaching a station at a crossing, with the crossing bells going off, MU's approaching with horns blowing, dropping off passengers, and then accelerating with that classic MU "hum" - an amazing sound sample! You will need an MP3 player to listen to this file - you can download one at http://www.winamp.com. NOTE: If you receive "garbage" on your screen when you click on the "sample" link, right-click on the link and select either "Save Link As..." or "Save Target As...", depending on your browser. You may now play the sound directly off your hard drive.
Bob Stafford shares this view of UN Tower at Port Morris, shot in the early 1960's. The tower still stands today, but is just a shell. More images from Bob are coming as soon as I can scan them in!
Joe Jordan shot two new U34CH's at Croxton, NJ in early 1973. The 3380 and a sister unit represent the last order of these units, and feature modifications that were later put onto earlier U34CH's, including the horn moved behind the cab, a painted gasket around the red nose marker, and yellow corner handrails. Joe also shot the EL's two slugs, B65 and B66 in storage at Croxton Yard in May 1978. Both units had been stored since the end of the EL.
The new Overland DL&W MU can be seen in this advertisement. Check out that detail!
Gary Kazin collects railroad postcards, and here he shares four of the old Lackawanna.
  • Boonton, NJ - The station annex (main station building is behind the train). Circa 1920, the buildings all still exist (though the landscaping is no more!)
  • Cranberry Lake, NJ - An overview of the lake with the Sussex Branch at lower left, circa 1907.
  • Newton, NJ - The station in town, circa 1907, at the end of the Sussex Branch.
  • Wharton, NJ - Looking west down the main, shortly after the town was renamed from Port Oram.
Todd Hollritt found this amazing shot in his uncle's attic. This image, taken from a plate glass negative, shows members of Todd's family detraining at Shohola, PA sometime around the turn of the century. Todd would like to know if anyone can help with these questions: Does anyone have engine data on the 4-4-0 camelback? Was Shohola a vacation spot on the Erie - why detrain there?
Bill Kisselstein caught this former EL gon, now rebuilt and repainted in "Conrail Quality" maintenance of way gray, in April 1998.
Fred Stratton found that you can still find EL heritage... if you know where to look! This former Erie wooden caboose is now part of a doctor's office. This photo, taken a few years ago when the building was a restaurant, shows that the caboose is well-kept (anyone know the former Erie number?). Another place to look for EL where you might not think is in the World Trade Center in New York City, where Fred got this view of Hoboken Terminal, showing the old ferry slips and the trainshed. Hard to believe this is the last active railroad terminal on the Hudson!1
Bill Weibel was gracious enough to send this photo of EL Alco S1 308 in the early EL freight scheme, after the recent list discussion about S1 paint schemes. This proves that some S1's did indeed get "real" EL paint jobs!
Damion Christangelo recently shot this former Erie "Dunmore" caboose near the train barns at the Arcade & Attica Railroad museum in western New York State.
Pete Scheckermann passes along these black and white views of the "Totowa Drill" on the Totowa Industrial Track in New Jersey (see the Discovery Days section for more), taken during December 1970.
Harry Scholz provides us with these classic EL views from the Southern Tier of New York area:
  • A sparkling repainted Baldwin DS-4-4-1000 poses at Gang Mills, NY in the fall of 1968.
  • HO tower on the Erie at Horseheads, NY is beginning to look weathered in this view during the fall of 1976. Note the plugged up holes for the manual rods at the bottom!
  • When the EL closed down their East Binghamton engine facility, they left everything sitting around as-is. In this view from June 1970, the engine facility is abandoned (and relatively clean!). Note the single light bulb on the coaling tower that was left on when the railroad moved out!
  • There's a suspicion that Dansville and Mount Morris 4-6-0 #304 is a former Lackawanna engine. This view was taken in the fall of 1959. Can anyone confirm/deny if this locomotive is ex-DL&W?
  • A classic troop sleeper, DL&W 3629 is seen in MOW service in Binghamton, NY in 1977.
  • Shortly after the EL swapped three U33C's with the D&H for three SD45's, EL 803 is seen passing through Binghamton. Note the numberboards: Originally, the units were to be numbered 3801-3803. However, at the last minute, the initial "3" was dropped, and it can be seen painted out in the numberboards.
  • Here's a rarely seen view of a TCS board (Traffic Control System). This one is in HO Tower (see above), and this view is taken in the fall of 1976.

16-Jul-1998
Damion T. Christangelo sends along this image of New York & Lake Erie FPA-2 6764 at Gowanda, NY on June 16, 1998. The NY&LE has chosen this Erie-inspired scheme to decorate their two Alco cab units, and the scheme is quite appropriate - the NY&LE runs over former Erie trackage!
Bill Weibel shot this very familiar unit at St. Louis, MO on August 8, 1985. The unit, ex-Conrail SDP45 6668 (and formerly EL 3636), was now in the possession of the N&W (note the sublettering on the cab) after Conrail's lease expired.
Bill Gallagher was at the former Lackawanna Taylor Yard near Scranton, PA on June 21, 1998. The yard is still quite active; witness Delaware & Hudson GP38-2 7309 and Delaware-Lackawanna C425 2461 were both in the yard, recalling days when the D&H and EL worked closely together. The D-L 2461 is former EL 2461, and its paint scheme recalls those days.
Mike Del Vecchio sends this image of a one-of-a-kind EL hack. Former Lackawanna 850, now EL C850, was taken February 2, 1975 at Niles, OH (photo from the John C. LaRue collection). Odds are pretty good that this car never received the modern maroon/gray/yellow paint! Note that the caboose is an interesting hybrid of DL&W wood caboose layout with steel components.
Frank Czajkowski recently ventured into NJ Transit's Port Morris yard to capture this image of a rusting, EL-painted former Lackawanna baggage car. This car's future doesn't seem to bright, unfortunately.
Mike Del Vecchio provides this classic early 20th century image of Roseville Avenue tower and the junction between the Morris & Essex line and the Montclair Branch.
Fred Stratton sends this view from his collection of a Victoria Railways EMD-built diesel leading a passenger train. Why show an Australian diesel on this list? Check out the paint scheme! Apparently, the Aussies like Erie's scheme so much, they adapted it for their own use!
One of the recent list threads was a discussion about the "Hayshaker," the New Jersey & New York line local. Pete Scheckermann provides these four views of the local on the Erie main at Allendale, NJ. The first view has EL GP7 1242 and caboose C312 in August 18, 1975. The second view has GP7 1244 on May 20, 1976. The third view changes motive power, with GP35 2576 on April 29, 1976. And the final view has GP35 2583 on May 12, 1976. Though three of these images are just into Conrail, the train consists are wholly representative of EL days.
Making sure to "get what's there now," I canvassed the Great Notch (NJ) area. Here's a shot of a NJ Transit train passing the remains of the former Great Notch yard. The yard area is to be rebuilt for MU service in 2000.
Looking through my photo collection, I found these shots I took in 1997 at Conrail's former PRR Enola Yard in Harrisburg, PA. The first shot is EL 434254, a 65-foot mill gon that is painted for maintenance of way service. The car is in amazingly clean paint, 22 years after the road's demise. Also at Enola was this covered hopper sitting near the sanding facility. It's pretty obviously a former EL car, an ex-DL&W drop-frame covered hopper.

Really Old Stuff!
A beautiful shot of Atlantic Coast Line 1405, taken by William J. Lenoir (photo collection of Jim Herron via Mike Del Vecchio). This is former Lackawanna 4-8-2 1405, one of several that were leased to the L&HR in 1942 before being sold to the ACL.
Mel Ponton has painstakingly convert a Lackawanna equipment list into a format that fits onto one page. Attached are the two sides of the page, side 1 and side 2. Save these files, then download Paint Shop Pro from the JASC site. Use PSP to view and print these files.
For all you modelers, here are the first shots of the brand new ELHS Limited Edition 50' Double-Door boxcars! The cars come in four numbers, with two different end lettering styles available. These cars are also a first as they introduce InterMountain's new 7' door (this car has a combination 7/8' door). These cars will be available for sale at the ELHS Eastern Region Spring Meeting, and information for mail order of these cars will be put up here next week. Meanwhile, check out these shots of car EL 67980 (as seen in the EL Color Guide to Frt. and Pass. Equipment). The first shot shows a 3/4 view of a partially assembled car. Hard to tell from this shot, but this car has Roman end lettering. The second shot is a broadside of the same car, and clearly shows the paired 7/8 doors. The digital photos are still somewhat unsharp, and don't do these cars justice!
Al Holleuffer took this shot of an EL NJDOT-scheme painted MU number 3596 at Morristown, NJ in September 1976. This one-of-a-kind car was never repeated, due to rust staining the bright paint.
Seth Taylor provides these scans of historic postcards from the collection of Gary Kazin. The first card shows the observation car of the Lackawanna Limited. The card was printed by the Rochester News Company, and apparently was never mailed. The other card shows the curve at Summit, NJ, just east of the Rahway Valley RR junction, looking east. This card was mailed with a penny stamp (1902 series).
Joe Jordan took this shot of a group of EL 33000-series hoppers parked in the yard outside the Baltimore Harbor Tunnel in April 1993. Many EL hoppers sat in this yard for several years, and have now moved elsewhere.
Henry Priebe provides this video still of Erie caboose C-348 at North Tonawanda, NY on March 28, 1998. This caboose is owned by the Niagara Frontier Chapter NRHS at their Tonawanda Erie Station site.
More great photos taken by Joseph Taylor from the Seth Taylor collection: Two more views of Black River (ex-DL&W) 565 at Chester, NJ in 1960 - a head-on and 3/4 view.
Perhaps the only existing "cement canister," commonly seen in Lackawanna gondolas, was photographed by Mike Del Vecchio in March 1998 at Berwick, PA. Mike shares these two views with us: the first view shows the entire container, with a ladder for scale (the ladder is exactly 12" wide); and a detail view of the top of the container.
To help solve the "what's that Bachmann car?" controversy, Mike Del Vecchio has provided these two views of Lackawanna's versions of this new HO scale model. Although blurry, this view shows an rare shot of car in as-delivered Pullman Green in this photo by James Dee, Sheldon King collection via Mike. This car is deadheading in a westbound train at Corning, NY. This view shows car "Scenic Falls" in the more well-known "Phoebe Snow" colors. (Photo, Rail Data Services collection)
As a postscript to the Boonton Line "Discovery Days," here are two shots by Scott Lupia of a Conrail train on the Boonton Line, a relatively uncommon occurrence. Here is train DJ-61 passing West Boonton, NJ heading east to Mountain View. Note the newly refurbished "stub" track in the immediate foreground, as well as the DL&W signal bridge in the background. Scott also caught the train returning west, heading past the "old yard" of Boonton, with the town buildings in the background. The one car in each direction shows how traffic has shrunk.
Steve Kay offers this shot he took of a former Lackawanna lighter, only its operator's house visible above the waterline, as it sits in the "Canal" at Hoboken, NJ, awaiting its inevitable scrapping.
Seth Taylor has provided us with many interesting photos taken by him. First up is this view of an excursion on the Lackawanna Sussex Branch in 1959. Next is the Phoebe Snow observation car, under the Hoboken trainshed in 1959, taken early morning by a 12-year-old Seth Taylor (also seen here at that age in the cab of an Erie RS3 at Hoboken in the winter of 1959). He then caught this large lashup of Lackawanna FT's rolling light westbound at 30 mph on Track #1 through Dover, NJ in the summer of 1960. Pure Lackawanna consist in the shadow of the forthcoming EL! The equipment at the left in the distance is a set of "Boonton" coaches. And last but certainly not least, here is a classic two-car MU local at Dover, NJ at mid-day in June 1960. Note the combine at one end of the train, and the Studebaker behind the wall at the left!
A photo of Lackawanna 565 in Black River paint, taken by Joseph Taylor (photo courtesy Seth Taylor). Pictured at Chester, NJ on the CNJ in 1960.
A "rare" color shot of an MDT/Lackawanna reefer at Meadville, PA - photo by Dennis Mead. Not very clean, but the years of road grime accumulation show the cars age!
Yet another Lackawanna caboose in EL paint... This one is Caboose C892, a Ray Threlfall photo taken in 1974. And an an extra treat, here is a Drew Chemical Company tank car, taken from the June 1955 issue of "The Lackawanna" employee newsletter. Drew was one of the biggest Lackawanna shippers on their Boonton Line.
By popular demand, here's GP7 #1233 involved in the same wreck as the caboose below. Four angles, all shot by Steve Kay: Angle 1, Angle 2, Angle 3, and Angle 4.
EL caboose C853 sits wrecked at Lake Jct., NJ in 1974 in a photo by Steve Kay. Obviously, it suffered some major damage! Our intrepid photographer found the C853 once again, sitting on a flat car in Port Jervis during March 1976. Undoubtedly, it was cut up for scrap soon afterwards. Two other views of former DL&W steel cabooses: Caboose C861 sits with ex-Erie Dunmore caboose C220 in Scranton, PA, in a Jay Mikesh photograph. (Anyone know what the star under the number on C220 indicated? Write me!) And to show the modern side, here is Caboose C897 at the end of a "Bloom" train on the old Bangor and Portland, looking very sharp and shiny in its new maroon/gray/yellow paint. Note that this photo was taken shortly after the GMY scheme began to be applied - it lacks the "standard" black consolidated stencil, and instead wears yellow consolidation stencils. Photo by Jay Mikesh.
EL caboose C907 still exists in Long Branch, NJ! This view shows it on February 20, 1998, behind the Casey Jones Restaurant across the street from the Long Branch station (photo by Paul Tupaczewski). For comparison, here's a shot of C907, same side, taken by Larry DeYoung at Marion, OH on March 23, 1976. Time hasn't been too bad for this hack!
Tim Heckman shares these views of just-after-Conrail EL power: CR 3682, a former EL GP35, rests at Buffalo, NY. CR 6074, a former EL SD45 with a nice coat of road grime, leads a train at Silver Creek, NY.
Larry Berger took these photos of a pair of ex-Erie boxcars, painted gray in Conrail service but still wearing EL reporting marks. If you look closely, you can see the EL/Erie diamonds coming through the paint at the upper right of the cars! EL 415034 and EL 415035 were shot during 1995 in Wooster, Ohio.
EL "red" covered hoppers do exist! Former DL&W car EL 18022 attributes its red color to its former DL&W paint job (note EL 84001, a 'rare' PS-1), while EL 4xx524 is a bit of a mystery. 18022 is at Taylor Yard, and 4xx524 is at Sayre, PA, photos by Lou Schultheis.
The Boonton Line hosted varied EL activity. A trio of GP7's shoves on the back of an eastbound freight, going across Fulton Street in Boonton, NJ in 1975. U34CH 3364 pauses at Denville, NJ on May 14, 1971 (coincidentally, the day I was born!). Today, this scene isn't repeatable: The U-boats are gone, as is the station. And finally, a GP7-powered caboose hop heads east past Denville Jct. tower. This scene, fortunately, looks much the same (with the exception of the EL train, of course!)
History is all around us! In the late 1800's, the Lackawanna served the Boonton Nail Works. Of interest in this shot are the historic Lackawanna boxcars and the Pennsylvania gondola. Of course, the Iron Works scene has changed considerably; witness this shot taken in 1996 at the same location.
"Then and Now." Compare these photos taken in March 1996 and March 1997 with the photo on the bottom of page 86 in Larry DeYoung's Erie Lackawanna in Color: Volume 3 - The East End. Amazing how things change!
Lackawanna Lives! Seth Taylor recently took a trip to Henryville, PA on the DL&W Main Line to see what neat industrial archaeology he could find. This first view shows the stairs that led to the concrete platform at the station. (That's Seth's wife in the background). Looking down the tracks at this location, a typical Lackawanna signal bridge still stands across the once-four-track right of way, along with the typical Lackawanna high ballast. Finally, this view of the 133 pound rail (Carnegie Steel - 1950) shows how well the Lackawanna's track has survived, nearly 40 years since it ceased to exist.
Bob Leeper provides this neatly edited version of the Bill K. shot of the restored "DL&W 808" that can be used as a Windows background.
Bill K. mailed me this full-painted version of an EL U23B, based on the painting diagram found below. Looks pretty spiffy to me!
From the Bill Gallagher collection comes this photo of some Lackawanna F3's in passenger paint, shortly after the EL merger (note the new four-digit numbers). The shot was taken in the Scranton area in the early 1960's.
As a postscript to his earlier photos, Seth Taylor offers these current-day views of Dover, NJ. The first shot shows NJT ALP44 4421 on April 25, 1998, ready to depart for Hoboken from the new Dover station platform (compare with this vintage EL view). This next view shows westbound ALP44 4412 arriving at the last stop. In the background can be seen the Dover electric yard. Finally, this last view shows the Dover station, relatively unchanged from Lackawanna days.
Answering a commonly asked question, "Yes, they DID run cars with new paint behind steam!" This photo, from the Bill Gallagher collection, shows the Owl during Christmastime in the late 1940's.
Conrail GP7 5982, a former EL unit, is seen in Tuxedo, NY circa 1977, in this photo by Dan Vincent.
I finally got the famed U23B painting diagram scanned in! This painting diagram also shows some interesting features, including the AAR-B trucks and the EL low-clearance horns. There's also a large version of the diagram, suitable for printing. The diagram comes from the historic archives of the Erie Lackawanna Historical Society.
When it rains, it pours! Bill Weibel (seen here at Nay Aug Tunnel, through the miracle of modern technology [and we'll forgive him that Mopac jacket! :)]) sends along these two shots of EL bi-level auto racks. The first shot is an open-sided car, while the second shot is of a closed-sided car. Both photos taken at Conrail's Buckeye Yard in 1991. Note the van and truck loads, admirably demonstrating the main reason for these two-deck cars.
Michael Dye shot these shots of a rare EL bi-level autorack (amazingly taken this only a few weeks ago!) Here are view from one end and the other end. This close-up view of the logo panel shows he heavy rusting and pitting that has occurred over the past 22+ years. And here's a detail view of the end of the car.
Bill Gallagher sends these scans from the Scranton Times, during the 1955 floods of Hurricane Diane. The Nay Aug Tunnels were heavily damaged, and the fill in front of them was obliterated. A newspaper article details the work the DL&W was doing to restore service as quickly as possible. Finally, the Erie advertised in the Scranton paper as well! The Erie's Dunmore yards were completely obliterated by the flood.
Gary Kazin offers more post card views, scanned by Seth Taylor. The Hudson Manhattan Terminal in New York City, where railroad ferry slips hosted ferries from Hoboken and Jersey City. Could that be an Erie ferry at right? Also note the Hudson & Manhattan tubes at the bottom. A view of the Lackawanna bridge over the Passaic River between Newark and Harrison, circa 1907 - note the camelback power on this double-deck bridge. And finally, a view of the Roseville Avenue interlocking on the Lackawanna Morris & Essex line, with the Montclair Branch splitting off to the right. Does anyone know when this section was reconfigured to today's single track configuration? Once the Montclair Connection is complete, this junction will become busier than ever.
Bill K. sends along these shots of EL stuff today: EL 434257, a MOW service gondola, still reposed on Conrail at DeWitt, NY in 1993; "DL&W 808/807", together for the first time, are westbound on the Finger Lakes Railroad near Martico, NY over Columbus Day Weekend, 1997; and a preserved EL (nee-Erie) Milk Car is now part of the Rochester & Genesee Valley Chapter NRHS museum at Rush, NY.
The location of a potential upcoming "Discovery Day," here are some views of Great Notch, NJ. In this view, NJ Transit GP40PH-2 4110 leads a "Great Notch Turn" east towards Hoboken. Note the switch on the westbound main at left. The grassy patch the track leads into is the former yard used for trains going down the Caldwell Branch, about a half-mile down the tracks behind the photographer (in this case, me). It is slated to be rebuilt and used as an MU storage yard once the Montclair Connection project is completed. Get those shots now! Looking the other way, another GP40PH-2 storms west out of Great Notch. The Caldwell Branch came off the left-hand track at the point where the sun-lit rails disappear. Today, the switch is gone. Both tracks come together into one just around that bend.
The NJDOT put up these distinctive blue signs to indicate the location of the various stations ("Park-Ride" in modern terms) on EL lines. To commemorate the new Pullman-Standard equipment, the signs had a drawing of what appears to be a P-S car at first glance. Looking closer, you'll notice the cars have center doors! Photo by yours truly.
Here are some tickets that I won as door prizes at the ELHS Eastern Region Spring Meeting. The first ticket is a restricted monthly commutation ticket between Lincoln Park and Hoboken, NJ. The second ticket is a yearly ten-trip ticket between Mountain View and Hoboken, NJ. The third ticket is a standard one-trip ticket given out on all EL lines. Check out the names of all those long-gone stations!
Seth Taylor shares some more classic views with us. Erie RS2 908 is seen backing up to its train at Hoboken, NJ in 1959. He was later to discover that this RS2 was the engine on the last passenger run on the Orange Branch. The locomotive was later destroyed in an accident on the EL. Seth also took this splendid shot of the Branchville, NJ station on a railfan trip in July 1959. Note the placard taped to the side of the building - they are an ICC notice and a BPUC notice for discontinuance of passenger service to Branchville. Anyone know what year the building was erected, and does it exist today?
This is a shot I took at the ELHS Annual Meeting in Scranton back in 1996. Bill Hallstead (coordinator of the Modeling News section of the ELHS Extra Board) proudly poses with his latest railroadiana purchase. He couldn't figure out at first what it was! We eventually deduced that it was a placard off a tri-level autorack. Want proof? View Larry DeYoung's shot of one of these cars and see for yourself.
Bill Gallagher has provided this fine selection of photos of interest to EL fans:
  • EL 3608 leads a train through Hammond, Indiana in 1973, and is later seen storming through the snow.
  • EL E8 822 gets watered at Marion Union Station, Marion, OH in 1968.
  • New caboose EL C361 trails a piggyback train in 1968. (These four shots collection of Bill's uncle)
  • A shot of the current eastbound right-of-way below the Harrison Avenue Bridge in Scranton. The location of the third track is plainly visible; the fourth track ended just west of the bridge.
  • A NAY AUG sign marks the current Delaware-Lackawanna crossing at Myrtle Street.
  • EL cabooses occasionally wore this frowny face, indicating resentment towards dirty hacks!
  • A beautiful overview of the Lackawanna steam shops and Lackawanna station in Scranton, as viewed from the former Erie Wyoming Division right-of-way, 18-Apr-98.
  • A view of a four track signal bridge at Myrtle Street in Scranton, 18-Apr-98.
  • Finally, a view of the east end of Nay Aug Tunnel on 18-Apr-98.